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BIRTH OF JESUS CHRIST AND MUHAMMAD. FROM THE CREATOR, HIS MOTHER MARY.ESPOUSED TO JOSEPH, BEFORE THEY CAME. BOTH WERE SON OF GOD, FULL OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. MARY BRINGS,THE SON OF GOD. JESUS IS TO SAVE THE WORLD FROM THIER SINS. A VIRGIN WITH CHILD, TO BRING A SON. EMMAN’UEL MEANS, GOD WITH US. BAPTISED WITH WATER, FOR REPENTANCE. MIGHTY IS GOD,HE COMES AFTER US. MIGHTER IS HE, THE SHOES I AM NOT WORTHY TO BEAR. GOD WILL BAPTIST YOU, WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE FIRE. SUFFER NOW, HE COMES TO FULLFIL ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS, IT IS WRITTEN. MAN SHALL NOT LIVE, BY BREAD ALONE. EVERY WORD, IS THE MOUTH OF GOD. JESUS SAID, IT IS WRITTEN. THE DICEIVER WILL TEMPT, THE ANOINTED PROPETS OF GOD. JESUS TOLD OF THE DECEIVER, WRITTEN BEFORE. WORSHIP GOD, WILL YOU SERVE HIM? THE CREATOR OF ALL CREATION. JESUS PREACHED, REPENTANCE.THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND, FOLLOW HIM. YOU WILL BE ANOINTED, PROPHETS. JESUS WENT AROUND TEACHING, IN THE SINAGOGUES. PREACHING THE GOSPEL,OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. HEALED ALL MANNER, SIN. HE WALKED THE EARTH, TO FORGIVE. HE THAT FOLLOWED HIM, THE DECIPLES ARE THE ANOINTED PROPHETS. BLESSED ARE THE BELIEVERS. THEIRS IS THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. BLESSED ARE THEY THAT MORN,THEY SHALL BE COMFORTED. BLESSED ARE THE CHILDREN, THEY SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH. BLESSED ARE THE HUNGERY AND THIRSTY, RIGHTEOUSNESS WILL BE FULFILLED. BLESSED ARE THE MERCIFUL,THEY WILL OBTAIN MERCY. BLESSED ARE THE PURE IN HEART,THEY SHALL SEE GOD. BLESSED ARE THE PEACEMAKERS,THE CHILDREN OF GOD. BLESSED ARE THE PERSACUTED, RIGHTEOUSNESS IS THE REWARDED IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. BLESSED ARE THE PERSACUTED, SHALL FORGIVE. FORGIVE WHO FALSELY ACUSE THEM, IN THE NAME OF GOD. REJOICE AND BE HAPPY, YOUR REWARD IS HEAVEN. PERSACUTED, THE PROPHET WHICH ARE YOU. MAN IS THE SALT, OF THE EARTH. NON BELIEVERS, GOOD FOR NOTHING. GOD WILL, TRODEN UNDER HIS FEET. BELIEVERS, ARE THE HEART OF THE WORLD. ANOINTED PROPHETS OF GOD, SHALL NOT BE HID. BELIEVERS THE CANDLES, NOT TO BE HIDDEN. PROPHETS, GIVE LIFE TO THE WORLD, THEY ARE CHILDREN OF GOD. TO SHINE BEFORE MAN, DOING GREAT WORKS AND TO GORIFY OUR GOD. NOT TO DESTROY LAW, OR THE PROPHETS. UNTIL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS. LAW OF THE COMMANDMENTS, NO MAN SHALL DISOBEY. HIM WHO BREAKS THESE LAWS, WILL BE LEAST IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD. HE WHO DOES AND TEACHES, WILL BE THE GREATEST IN THE KINGDOM, TO HE WHO EXCEED. HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS, EXCEED THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE SCRIBES. IN THIS CASE, SHALL ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
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REFERANCE IS THIS IN MATHEW, NEW TESTAMENT…
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MAT. 9:10 REFERS TO, POLITICIANS AND SOCIETY. FASTING, MORNING LOST ONES OR CLOSE RELATIONSHIPS. MAT. 9:16 POISON MIXED WITH WINE, STILL POISON. POWER OVER DEATH,THE FRUITS OF FAITH TO GROW SPREAD AND GROW. FAITH TO BELIEVE OR NOT DOUPT, IS A MIRRACLE. PREACHERS OR PROPHETS, DO WORK FOR OUR GOD. MAT.10:1 DISCIPLES TEACH, SIN AND POINT RIGHTEOUS WAY OF LIFE. MAT.10:3 MATHEW, A POLITICIAN. MAT. 10:10-15 REFERS TO, GAY SOCIETY. MAT. 10:25 WAY TO LIVE LIFE, MASTER TO SLAVE ARE EQUAL. TO LOVE ALL MAN. MAT. 10:34 TO SHOW, RIGHT FROM WRONG. A STONE TO TRIP AND FALL,TO OPEN EYES AND HEARTS. MAT.10:38-39 LOVE OVER GOD, MEANING ANYTHING. MAT. 10:40-42 BELIEF, IS SAFE MAT. 11:2-6 BELIEVERS, ARE LUKE WARM. MAT. 11:8 ONE WHO, HAS TO MUCH PRIDE. MAT. 11:11 RESULTS OF, TO MUCH PRIDE. MAT. 11:14 ELI’AS, TRUE AND FAITHFUL, BEFORE OUR GENERATION. MAT. 11:18 MAN OF GREAT WEALTH, WHO GAVE AND NOT TAKEN. MAT. 11:21 TRUE FAITH BEFORE LOST, TO THE DECEIVER. A BELIEVER, FACES JUDGEMENT ON THE DAY. 12/21/2012. MAT. 11:23 THE RICHEST AND MOST POWERFUL, BEFORE CHRIST. MAT. 11:24 SODOM THE CITY OF SIN, WORSE, FOR WE KNOW. MAT. 11:27 SIN PAST DOWN TO SOCIETY, GENERATIONS. MAT.11:28-30 TO SURRENDER TO GOD, BY FAITH, KNOW HIM PERSONALLY OR NO QUESTION. MAT. 12:1 THEY COULD BUT, NOT EQUALY. SELFISH AND GREED HELD HIGHER, EVEN OF RELIGION. 12:8 GOD’S DAY, TO DO AS HE WANT. NOT BY BELIEF, FOR REST. MAT. 12:11-12 SABBATH DAY, TO GOOD NO MATTER THE DAY. MAT. 12:17-18 LOVE GIVEN, TO HIS SERVANT. MAT. 12:19-20 NOT MADE TO WORK THIS DAY. MAT. 12:22 THE DECEIVER, MADE THEM WORK. SO THEY COULD HAVE THINGS. MAT. 12:23-24 TWISTING OF WORDS,TO MAKE RIGHT INTO WRONG. MAT. 12:25 SEPERATED CHURCHES, AGAINST ANOTHER. MAT. 12:26 EXAMPLE: OF TRUTH, BUT OPPOSITE. MAT. 12:27 JUDGE NO ONE, THEY WILL JUDGE YOU. MAT. 12:29 TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, EASIER WITHOUT SIN ON JUDGEMENT DAY. MAT. 12:30 NONBELIEVERS, TO BE SCATTER IN HELL. MAT. 12:36 BELIEVERS WILL PAY, DAY OF JUDGEMENT. MAT. 12:40 JEWS PROCLAIMED BARIAL, NOT ON THAT DAY. MADE THEM WAIT THREE DAYS. MAT. 12:42 TO PROVE MORE POWERFUL, THAN SOLOMON. MAT. 12:43 MAN WITH FAITH, A BELIEVER. DOES NOT KNOW HIM,TALKING TO HIM. MAT. 12:45 CORRUPTS MANY, THUS SO FORTH. MAT. 12:46-48 DOES AS WANTS TO, DISHONORING WISDOM. MAT. 12:49 IGNORING ELDERS. MAT.12:50 SHOULD OBEY,IS LOVE. THEN YOU WILL, TALK TO GOD AND TRUST HIM. MAT. 13:3-8 SEEDS IN STONE DIE, FORGET GOD. TO BE CHOKED OR CORRUPTED, WITH BAD SEED. PRODUCES BAD SEEDS. MAT. 13:11 DISCOUNTS, WISE, DISMISS AS DUMB. MAT.13:12 BELIEVER GIVES AND SHARES, COMES BACK. HE WHO TAKES LOSSES MEANING, IS USELESS TO GOD. MAT. 13:13-14 A BELIEVER, BLIND AND CAN SEE. NOT UNDERSTANDING MISSES, WHAT ONE CAN HAVE. MAT.13:15 STUBBORN IS RIGHT, NO MATTER IF WRONG. MAT. 13:16 ANOINTED ONE, KNOWS GOD. MAT. 13:19 LOSS OF SIGHT, BLIND. MAT. 13:20 BOTHERED AND GROWS, ANYWAY. MAT. 13:21 BELIEVERS FACE JUDGEMENT,UPON HIS COMMING. MAT. 13:23 WHO, KNOWS AND TALKS TO GOD, NO MORE A BELIEVER. MAT. 13:24-30 TO POINT BLAME, JUDGEMENTS. MAT. 13:31-32 GROWS AND PRODUCE FRUITS,TREE OF LIFE. MAT. 13:33 MOTHER NOT GIVING GOOD FOUNDATION, IT STILL GROWS. MAT. 13:34-35 PARABLE, HIDES FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, FOR MAN. REASON, REDEPTION OF THE WORLD. MAT. 13:37 JESUS, SOWS GOOD SEED. BELIEVERS, SEED LOOSE MEANING.ALLOWS IN, THE DECEIVER. MAT. 13:40-43 RESULT OF JUDGEMENT DAY. MAT. 13:44 EXAMPLE: GARDEN OF EDEN,BLIND TO SIGHT. MAT. 13:45-46 PUTS GREATER SIN, OVER LESSER SIN. EXAMPLE: GAY MARRIAGE. MAT. 13:51-52 BELIEVERS BRING FRUITS, EQUAL OR LESSER THAN. UNLIKE JESUS AND MUHAMMAD. MAT. 13:53-56 OFFENDED FOR, THEY BELIEVED. FELT THEY WERE WISER AND SMARTER,JEALOUS. A PROPHET KNOWS TRUTH. FAITH NOT HELD IN CONTEMPT, ACCEPTS AND MOVES ON. MAT.13:57 KNOWS LOVE, TRUTH. MAT. 13:58 TRUE LOVE, GIVES CHOICE OF BELIEF. MAT.14:2-5 HELD NO GRUDGE, IS RIGHT NO MATTER. MAT. 15:1-3 FOLLOWS TRADITION, IGNORING LAWS OF MOSES. THE PROPHET, OF THE COMMANDMENTS MAT. 15:4-6 KNEW PARENTS WERE WRONG, TO JUSTIFY. BOTH ARE WRONG. MAT. 15:7-8 HOLDS SOCIAL VALUE, ABOVE GOD. JUSTIFYING BELIEFS, HELD ABOVE GOD. MAT. 15:11-14 DEFILE MAN THEN DEFILES GOD, MAKES IT WORSE. MAT. 15:21-22 NONBELIEVER ONLY KNOWS MAN, NOT GOD. MAT. 15:24 SHOWS, TRUE LOVE. MAT. RESULT OF, TRUE LOVE. MAT. 15:26 OPPOSITE OF LOVE THROWS THEM AWAY,THIS IS SIN. MAT. 15:32 SORRY, CHOICE TO HELP THEMSELVES. DISMISS THEM,THEY ARE LOST. MAT. 15:33-38 ONLY HAD FAITH, DOUPTED GOD. SHOWS BELIEF, NOT KNOW GOD. EXAMPLE: BLIND BUT SEE. MAT. 16:1-3 JUDGE WEATHER,BLIND TO TRUTH. MAT. 16:4 EXAMPLE: BLIND BUT SEE. MAT. 16:6 WARNING, THINGS TO COME. MAT. 16:7-10 SAW MIRRACLES,DOUPTED FOR BELIEF ONLY. MAT. 16:11 LOST MEANING, BEHIND TRUTH.

The question is whether or not we can simply switch out someone’s natural pair-bond love orientation and switch in the word “hardship” with no change.

The reason I think this is problematic is that someone’s basic sexual/romantic love orientation is a deep part of their basic psychological and biological needs. If God creates a nature that is rampant with homosexual creatures throughout the animal kingdom (as He supposedly has, since this tendency has been found in members of species upon species now) and he specifically creates human beings who are fundamentally oriented towards members of their own sex for their fundamental love needs, and THEN he has specifically laid down a law against the fulfillment of those love needs, then he has not simply allowed them to suffer a hardship, he has burdened them with an unjust law.

If God is in any meaningful way to be said to be “good” or praised in the manner in which we praise morally good people, then he cannot set up a law which demands people suffer according to their fundamental biological and psychological needs. It is one thing to give a law for their moderation. You can argue that God wants us to restrain our sexual impulses away from rape and child molestation, etc. But if you acknowledge his responsibility for our basic physiology and psychology and you acknowledge that homosexuality exists as a real physio-psychological orientation, and you are saying God forbids homosexual behavior, then you are saying he gave them a desire that he not only wants channeled into moral outlets but which he wants to be perpetually frustrated.

This is the equivalent of creating a hunger in a being and then ordering that being to starve. That’s not hardship, it’s torture. While there are some of us who willfully can abstain from all pair-bond love relationships and/or remain celibate out of a self-imposed asceticism, it would be unfair for a God to create an entire subset of human beings who were required to remain emotionally out of love and sexless as the MINIMUM necessary to avoid being sinners.

This goes well beyond hardship, it goes to the point of a cruel and impossible standard, by which it would be completely unfair to judge anyone. Every natural propensity we have must have an outlet through which we can express it healthily, even if we have ethical limitations and guidelines for its exercise. If there is a God and He created gays, then He must either approve of their love relationships (including the sexual component) or he must want them to be forced to starve their need for love, or he wants them to marry members of the opposite sex towards whom they are not most fulfillingly inclined, or he wants them damned to hell should they decide to live in accord with the desires he gave them.

If God exists and he wants people in loveless marriages, starved of fundamental pair-bond relationships as a matter of principle, or damned to hell for following the basic psychology with which he equipped them, then the only inference possible is that he is malicious. Or at least malicious towards those he has treated thus.

“If there is such a God who created people this way in order to force them into a choice between (1) being in a loveless miserable marriage, or (2) being ostracized, or (3) being left to die alone and celibate, then he’s pretty simply a sick bastard not worthy of worship.”

If we remove the sexual context of this postulation, we are left with the typical “Why would God create hardship?” Dismissing God as a “sick bastard” because he theoretically established a universe in which such difficulties exist is nothing more than a judgment based off an aversion to existential pain. This is not sufficient enough a reason to posit that God is either a) bad and not worthy of worship, or b) good and misrepresented. In fact, it appears to be an oversimplification of God—a mistake similar if not identical to that of your commenter.

On the subject of pain, I would argue that the presence of “evil” and “bad” in the world has a definite function in that it gives meaning to the concept of the good, which would make it a welcome however incorrectly interpreted influence. This is an assertion certain religions do claim: Manichaeism and, to some extent, Taoism come to mind.

Back when I was an Episcopalian, my vicar had a poster on her wall with the classic picture of Henry VIII. The caption read, “In a church started by a man with eight wives, forgiveness goes without saying.” I thought that was fun.

It goes a bit farther, though. The figurehead of the Anglican church has always been the ruling monarch. The royal family has generally not be known for their marital fidelity, yet the church usually maintains a nod-n-wink acceptance of the fact.

Then there’s the sticky problem of polygamists in Africa wanting to join the church and bring their multiple wives with them. The church has been amazingly flexible in allowing these people in the door.

Best wishes and I hope to see you around again!

Touche!

Alteration and discussion, in this response, are depicted as “mutilation” of a religion. This assumes a purity to the original tradition. But what if that purity is an illusion to begin with?